12 things I want to do more in my next marathon training program

No intros. Let’s get to it.

1. More hill running. Brad Hudson swears by hill runs as an easy form of strength training, as well as a recovery aid after long runs. Jonathan Savage also swears by downhill running as a way to develop quad strength and endurance.

I want to try and do both during training… regular uphill running after long runs, and downhill runs as a harder workout early in the training cycle.

2. Sunday long runs instead of Saturday long runs. Previously I did my long run Saturday to give myself Sunday to recover before the workweek.

But this was during my previous career, which required a lot more walk commuting and where I used a standing desk. While that had many benefits, my new conventional sit-down career and its quicker, easier commute allows me much more physical downtime. Plus, I’ve improved my ability to get sleep after long runs, another factor in why I previously ran long on Saturday.

The hurdles to running Sunday have been eliminated, and since my next marathon will likely fall on a Sunday, it’s best to do the long runs on those days.

3. Greater emphasis on maintaining pace through consistent quick cadence. I’ve already been working on this as I’ve resumed running. But, in prioritizing volume during my last training cycle, I think I ran a low slower than I needed to.

This is hindsight being 20/20, but I realize I have better speed than my 11 minute mile long runs indicate. Plus, as I saw in tapering and the marathon, I have no trouble maintaining a faster cadence (and pace) on long runs.

I need to take a page from the Hanson Brothers and do all my distance running at as quick of a cadence as I can reaosnably maintain.

4. Mini-sharpening period for tune up races. My speedwork was either a bit scattered or a bit flat in how I applied it during the last cycle. I’m planning to stage it out a bit more this time around, not focusing hard on marathon level effort until the final few weeks.

As most recommend, I plan to focus more on maximizing speed during the early training stage, and this will allow me to focus better on tune-up races. If I train for specific endurance in the 3-4 weeks leading up to those races, to maximize performance in those races, it could have substantial long term benefits as I move on to more marathon endurance training post race.

5. Tune up races! I didn’t really do many tune-up races in my previous cycle, and to be honest I do miss shorter races. I almost decided to take a year off from marathons not because of how tough training is, but so I could do more shorter races instead.

I don’t think I’ll need to go that far, though. It’s entirely reasonable to do as many as 4-5 races during an 18 week training cycle, as tune-up races. And it’s reasonable to give them a serious effort, as doing so provides secondary training benefits.

6. More multi-pace workouts, especially during long runs. I’ve always mixed in fast-finish moderate runs, and dabbled with Daniels-style multi-pace long runs last year, during an extended test run of a marathon training cycle (I didn’t actually plan to run a marathon that fall, but did want to practice stretching out).

The latter are tough, and it may have been a little early in my development to do them. But now, having improved my ability to manage moderate pace in longer runs, I think it may benefit me to incorporate multi-pace long runs.

I don’t think I want to go full Daniels 2Q and devote two days a week to killer 12-16 mile runs with extended threshold and marathon pace segments right off the bat. I think to avoid burnout it’s best to do those closer to the race, around the peak cycle. I may not need to do a 20 miler next time around, but I can definitely benefit from a 16 miler where, say, 10+ of the miles are at marathon pace.

7. Varying the pace and intensity of regular distance runs. Over the last year I’ve done nearly all of my regular runs at around the same pace. That pace was somewhat faster during the Vancouver cycle than it was during the recent Chicago cycle. Lately as I’ve resumed running all of my runs have been substantially quicker than either.

But I think as I ramp up to training mileage it would be a good idea to take a standard hard/easy approach to those regular runs. Perhaps one day I can go moderate, and try to sustain an 8:30-9:15 pace… and the next I give myself total permission to take it easy and go as slow as I’d like. This can allow me to add maximum mileage while still giving myself permission to push myself some, while scaling back enough to allow those regular opportunities.

8. Run every single day, even if just a little bit. This worked very well for me during my last couple months of training. It happened basically by accident: I discovered I had run for over 10 straight days, and decided to try and keep the streak going because I still felt good despite no days off. I ran for 70 straight days right up to the Chicago Marathon, and felt great at the end.

My body seems to respond better to quick, easy runs as recovery instead of full rest. Many good runners run every day. I think it might work out (barring an actual injury) to just run 7 days a week, and when feeling particularly tired to just run a couple miles that day instead of outright resting.

9. Train to optimize high-moderate pace, for optimal aerobic support. Like many, I would previously opt to slow down my longer runs to preserve stamina. While this did allow me to run 20’s and other long runs, it didn’t help translate my speed to longer runs. My speed at shorter distances indicates I can run faster at longer distances.

Again, I want to take a page from the Hansons and seek to do my long runs at more of a moderate pace, rather than the easy pace most recommend. I’m obviously not going to race these long runs or do them at marathon pace just yet. But I want to go out at a solid cadence and try to hold that fast cadence for as long as reaosnably possible.

I’m no longer concerned about whether or not I can run long, since I clearly can. Now it’s about translating my speed to the longer distances by working on the specific endurance of running faster over longer distances.

10. Don’t emphasize marathon-pace until the final six weeks before the next marathon. While it’s important to do a bit of marathon pace training periodically throughout the training cycle, I also don’t want to peak too early. And it’s not as important to do marathon pace running until the final few weeks before the race.

As I did before Chicago, I will taper by heavily reducing my volume while doing virtually all of the my running during that time at marathon pace. It feels ingrained once you get to the start line, but if I were to do that for six weeks I would either begin to burn out or would lose my stamina from not being able to do longer runs.

Prior to the final few weeks, I’ll make sure not to do marathon pace for more than 25% of any speedwork in a week. A few miles once a week might be fine in the early going, but isn’t necessary.

11. Use accordant tune up races as goal pace benchmarks. Pace prediction calculators will use results from your other races as estimators of how you will do in other races, including the marathon.

If I have a goal pace in mind, a key will be to look at the equivalent pace in a tune up race, like a 5K or 10K, and see if I can run that pace. Or, if I don’t, to use the pace I run as a gauge of what I can do, and adjust my workout pacing going forward.

12. Peak early… with training volume. While I don’t want to peak early overall, I do have a lot of things I want to work on: Speed over longer runs, mixed workouts, other race distances.

It’s hard to work on all those things and increase your mileage during training. So, my plan is to focus during off-season and base training on building up higher mileage and to try and peak mileage before I get to foundational training.

By the 4th-6th week of training, I want to have experienced my max mileage, so that as I scale back training mileage I can easily slide into the other kinds of training and racing I want to do.


Thanks for humoring my lengthy list of personal training ideas.

More to come shortly on my upcoming personal marathon training goals.

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